Comments on: What Does The Web Standards Project Do? http://drinkingoatmealstout.com/2007/08/13/what-does-the-web-standards-project-do/ where we drink up the Web and postulate about its future Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:51:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Translating W3C HTML5 for the rest of the community; a possible role for the Web Standards Project « Oatmeal Stout - Justin Thorp’s Web 2.0 blog http://drinkingoatmealstout.com/2007/08/13/what-does-the-web-standards-project-do/#comment-3098 Translating W3C HTML5 for the rest of the community; a possible role for the Web Standards Project « Oatmeal Stout - Justin Thorp’s Web 2.0 blog Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:01:13 +0000 http://oatmealstout.wordpress.com/2007/08/13/what-does-the-web-standards-project-do/#comment-3098 [...] the Web Standards Project (WaSP) is looking for a way to stay relevant to the needs of the community, this would be a place they could step in. WaSP could have a HTML 5 Task Force whose mission it is [...] [...] the Web Standards Project (WaSP) is looking for a way to stay relevant to the needs of the community, this would be a place they could step in. WaSP could have a HTML 5 Task Force whose mission it is [...]

]]> By: vanderwal http://drinkingoatmealstout.com/2007/08/13/what-does-the-web-standards-project-do/#comment-3039 vanderwal Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:14:02 +0000 http://oatmealstout.wordpress.com/2007/08/13/what-does-the-web-standards-project-do/#comment-3039 Porter sounds like a good idea. I am out of DC a huge chunk of the Fall. Porter sounds like a good idea. I am out of DC a huge chunk of the Fall.

]]> By: Porter http://drinkingoatmealstout.com/2007/08/13/what-does-the-web-standards-project-do/#comment-2917 Porter Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:46:37 +0000 http://oatmealstout.wordpress.com/2007/08/13/what-does-the-web-standards-project-do/#comment-2917 Would either of you Justins or, heck, even you Thomas :) be interested in talking about how we can make WaSP more relevant on a face-to-face basis in the DC area? Whether it's as a WaSP Street Team initiative, or a WaSP Cafe, or by just making the DC Web Standards Meetup more interesting... whatever. Things usually get done in WaSP by someone just going out and doing them, so I'd like to hear from people who care. Would either of you Justins or, heck, even you Thomas :) be interested in talking about how we can make WaSP more relevant on a face-to-face basis in the DC area? Whether it’s as a WaSP Street Team initiative, or a WaSP Cafe, or by just making the DC Web Standards Meetup more interesting… whatever. Things usually get done in WaSP by someone just going out and doing them, so I’d like to hear from people who care.

]]> By: vanderwal http://drinkingoatmealstout.com/2007/08/13/what-does-the-web-standards-project-do/#comment-2910 vanderwal Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:30:34 +0000 http://oatmealstout.wordpress.com/2007/08/13/what-does-the-web-standards-project-do/#comment-2910 Justin, you make two assumptions, 1) WaSP has been really active; 2) Organizations need to be transparent. As part of WaSP I can tell you that when Molly left things drifted to a crawl on many fronts. The Dreamweaver, Accessibility, and Education Task Forces plugged along and were open and sharing with their lists and IRC meetings. Centralized communication fell off and Buzz fell off. Part of the quite it due to everybody being utterly swamped with their day job and the other was WaSP communication structure broke. We are working on fixing this and ironing out a way forward that makes sense. There are a ton initiatives that WaSP should be involved in, but have not had the focus nor resources (hours, people, and communication structures). The second assumption about transparency is a really long discussion. I agree in principle that WaSP should be more open and it is quite open to those interested in the TaskForces. But, in the world of companies as organizations there needs to be far more openness than their currently is, but for legal, SEC, and competitive reasons transparency and openness only goes so far. But most companies believe in 80 to 90 percent of their information being closed, which causes a lot of problems and expense. The restrictions business have on them should allow them to be 30 to 40% closed (both internally and externally). Justin, you make two assumptions, 1) WaSP has been really active; 2) Organizations need to be transparent.

As part of WaSP I can tell you that when Molly left things drifted to a crawl on many fronts. The Dreamweaver, Accessibility, and Education Task Forces plugged along and were open and sharing with their lists and IRC meetings. Centralized communication fell off and Buzz fell off.

Part of the quite it due to everybody being utterly swamped with their day job and the other was WaSP communication structure broke. We are working on fixing this and ironing out a way forward that makes sense. There are a ton initiatives that WaSP should be involved in, but have not had the focus nor resources (hours, people, and communication structures).

The second assumption about transparency is a really long discussion. I agree in principle that WaSP should be more open and it is quite open to those interested in the TaskForces.

But, in the world of companies as organizations there needs to be far more openness than their currently is, but for legal, SEC, and competitive reasons transparency and openness only goes so far. But most companies believe in 80 to 90 percent of their information being closed, which causes a lot of problems and expense. The restrictions business have on them should allow them to be 30 to 40% closed (both internally and externally).

]]> By: Justin Stockton http://drinkingoatmealstout.com/2007/08/13/what-does-the-web-standards-project-do/#comment-2909 Justin Stockton Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:28:04 +0000 http://oatmealstout.wordpress.com/2007/08/13/what-does-the-web-standards-project-do/#comment-2909 I've often wondered the same thing and I was hoping that the WaSP Street Teams (announced last year at SXSW) were going to be the thing that would "open" up the WaSP. Sadly though nothing, and I do mean nothing, has come out of it. The Street Team website hasn't been updated since the original announcement and no postings have been made to the mailing list. So I agree with you, just what are they up too? I’ve often wondered the same thing and I was hoping that the WaSP Street Teams (announced last year at SXSW) were going to be the thing that would “open” up the WaSP. Sadly though nothing, and I do mean nothing, has come out of it. The Street Team website hasn’t been updated since the original announcement and no postings have been made to the mailing list.

So I agree with you, just what are they up too?

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